Saturday, May 27, 2017

Encounter with a Satanist And God at the Abortion Center

A child rescued from abortion through Cities4Life intervention, born May 15

"Hi, I'm a Satanist and my pregnant friend is also a Satanist, a heroin addict, and was raped. Tell me about all your resources that can help us????"

I have been a pro-life sidewalk counselor at the Southeast's busiest abortion center for 3 1/2 years now. There is no doubt that I had it EASY when I started. God is definitely ramping up the intensity of the challenge. He gives us only what we can handle, but this was a new level of terrible, hard issues.

What complicated my day out there on the sidewalks Friday was my granddog Ragnar. That one year old dynamo dog was uncrated in my house as I didn't have the heart to crate him. I'd only be gone two hours...right? Could I topple a Satanist's twisted notions of the world and morality and spirituality before my house exploded from an uncrated puppy?

Could I make ANY inroads with an abortion minded, drug addicted, raped and pregnant Satanist even without the distraction of the puppy at home???

I love what our Cities4Life director once told me about how to respond when confronted with impossibly difficult issues. Begin with what you DO know and proceed from there. In other words, none of us can know all things. But there are truths we do know. Start there. That is what I did.

I listed our resources.
"But here's the problem," the Satanist said, "She doesn't want the baby. Can you imagine being raped and having to live with the evidence of that every day? And have you ever seen a baby in NICU withdrawing from heroin?"
"Yes," I said, "I have. But here's the thing. If I were raped, I would pursue with every ounce of my being the conviction of the man who raped me and have the full weight of the justice system come down on him as the criminal...but the baby is innocent. The baby had nothing to do with the crime of his father. The root issue here is about the sanctity of life. Is that a baby in the womb, and if not, what is it?"
She agreed it was a baby in the womb, and human.
"If that is a baby human in the womb, answer this for me. At what point does that baby in the womb NOT deserve to live?"
"Well if the baby is born addicted to heroin, or to a mother who doesn't want him..."
"Is he better off dead??? Does her wanting him or not determine his value?"
"I admit that he might end up to be someone who cures cancer, but then again he might end up a serial rapist like his father."
"That argument could be used for any unborn baby. Because they might turn out bad, should we just kill them all? How is that logical?"
She paused.
"Do you agree human beings have an intrinsic value and right to life?" I asked.
"I don't believe in God, if that's what you are asking. I'm a Satanist. Have you ever tried Satan?"

"Well I believe the abortion center is Satan's realm," I said. Then I proceeded to tell her very briefly of my life before knowing Jesus and all the evil and despair that had caused. It was Jesus who turned my headlong plunge towards destruction around. "But, back to the intrinsic value of human life. From a purely scientific, humanistic point of view, do humans have value, a right to life? Do you agree all of our rights are predicated on the right to life? And if we don't have that right, at what point do we not have that right? When does our value shift? At birth? A second before birth? A month before birth? Can you name any point other than conception that makes any logical sense? When do the unborn slide from non-person into personhood with the right to life? Can you name that moment?"

"Abortion is legal," the woman said. (I'm guessing she could not logically name that moment.)
"So was slavery. Did that make it moral?" I asked.

Surprisingly, she caved here and admitted she would grant me that it was never ok to kill a human baby in the womb and she would not do it personally. "But my friend has the choice to do it or not."
"Would it be ok to give her the choice to kill a baby outside the womb because of her situation?" I asked.

She returned to the problem of someone who was addicted to heroin giving birth to an addicted baby.
"Then she needs to go to rehab and get off heroin. We will help bring her there.Heroin is a dead end street that leads to destruction," I said.
"But the stress of stopping heroin is very hard..."
I stared at her.
"Stress during pregnancy is very bad for the baby," she explained.
"But abortion is not?" I asked.

She continued in a non-sequitur, and I was unsure of the thought process that led her to her next statement. "Research shows that humans are motivated by greed and power."
"I'm not," I said, "The research is wrong. I don't buy your premise. Every morning when I wake up I ask God to use me for His glory, and every night when I go to bed I thank Him for His blessings."

The Satanist felt the need to end our discussion then, though she said she understood my points, and even agreed with them. "But these people feel bad enough," she said, "You are making them feel worse."
"They should feel worse!" I said, "What they are doing should cause guilt. It is a mother taking the life of her own child. That should cause despair!"
Surprisingly, the Satanist took my literature with my name and phone number on it. I thanked her for talking with me, and prayed somehow God would work in her terribly sad and twisted life.

Three women chose life, but God's miracles had not ended. Remember, I had left my granddog, Ragnar, uncrated in the house thinking I would be gone only two hours. He is a one year old puppy. It was going on four hours since I had left him. I was sure to return to a home covered with poop, pee, and shredded furniture. I was saying Goodbye to the other counselors when a car drove slowly down the road.

Two women in the front seats were about to enter the abortion center parking lot. They stopped their car for me. If Ragnar destroyed my house, so be it. The women pulled over to the curb to tell me their situation. It turns out these women had NO idea this was an abortion center. One of them had been to the ER with abdominal pain, and the doctor had referred her to the abortion center! Both women were pregnant, and horrified that they had been sent to an abortion center. They both had limited resources, but wanted to see a doctor.

I gave them resources for a low cost OB/GYN clinic, and we gave them gifts and prayed with them. I have no doubt that the woman who had been to the ER would have been pressured to abort had they gone in the abortion center. We have had countless women come out of the abortion center and tell us they were told their baby's heart was not beating, but when they went on our ultrasound, the beating heart was evident. Those two women might have been encouraged to abort had we not been there!

Five mothers were rejoicing as a result of our presence at the abortion center that day. I jumped into my car and raced home, wondering what devastation I would find.

None. That wonderful puppy had not delivered a single spot of damage anywhere. If that is not proof that there is a God personally involved in my life, I don't know what is.

I loaded him in my car and told him we were going kayaking as a reward! Along the way, I shared my hastily prepared chicken burrito with him.

He lay down in the kayak with his head in my lap, sniffing the wind. The worries of the day melted away in the warm sun and the rocking boat.

Thank you Father for using me, and for using every member of the Cities4Life team, and thank you for this wonderful dog.

We are so hopeful to gather enough volunteers that we can have a morning and afternoon crew out there, praying and helping those misguided, lost, and broken souls. Please email me at for information and training.

1 Peter 5:8

Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.

Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil.

And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.

You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have life and have it abundantly.


  1. Thank you for all you do for the unborn and your diligence with the Satanist. Your Granddog is beautiful. God bless! Jill Frost ~ Alaska

    1. Wow! Alaska! I am thrilled my Blog touched a kind person in Alaska!

  2. Thank you for your steadfast faithfulness in service to King Jesus! Love you, friend. (I want to hear more about the heroin addicted pregnant woman who was raped. Do you think they might have just been making up a worst case scenario to test you? WAs this a passerby? The pregnant woman was not there?) Sheryl Chandler

    1. no the friend was there. She had gone in the abortion center. The Satanist told me she was addicted to drugs too, but then admitted it was legally prescribed for bipolar disorder. She could have been making it all up, but she clearly had a friend who went in to abort. She could have been testing me. Fortunately, I have had experience with each of the issues she raised...just not all at once. I didn't feel like she was making it up, but you know me. I am pretty gullible.

    2. though honestly, satanist, heroin addiction, rape, and abortion strike me as going together quite plausibly...